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Town Council Special Meeting
Hybrid Meeting
Town Council Chambers - 120 Civic Plaza Drive
Tuesday, November 17, 2025
3:00 p.m.
1. Opening Items
A. Call to Order by the Honorable Mayor Pascualito M. Maestas.
The Special Meeting of the Taos Town Council was called to order by Mayor Pro Tem Fambro at 3:04
p.m.
B. Roll Call
Those present were:
Mayor Pro Tern Marietta S. Fambro
Councilmember Darien D. Fernandez
Councilmember Corilia Ortega
Councilmember Genevieve Oswald
Also present were:
Town Manager Lupe Martinez
Assistant Town Manager Mark Flores
Town Clerk Denise Martinez
Deputy Town Clerk Miquela Mangum
Town Attorney Jessica Nixon
KCPRC Committee Members:
Former Councilmember George "Fritz" Hahn
Retired Judge Peggy Nelson
Dr. Sylvia Rodriguez
Dr. Horacio Trujillo
Tribal Sheriff Jesse Winters
Absent/Excused was:
Mayor Pascualito M. Maestas
C. Pledge of Allegiance
Councilmember Genevieve Oswald led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. Matters and Reports from the Council
A. Presentation by the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee regarding recommendations for the renaming
of Kit Carson Memorial Park. (Councilmember Genevieve Oswald)
Councilmember Oswald, chair of the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee, introduced Tribal Sheriff Jesse
Winters and committee members former Councilor George Fritz Hahn, former District 8 Judge Peggy Nelson, Dr.
Sylvia Rodriguez, and Dr. Horacio Trujillo, noting Winters formal appointment to the committee by Taos Pueblo.
She explained that the renewed effort began when a constituent called to ask what had happened to the park
renaming.A subsequent records search, assisted by former Town Clerk Francella Garcia, showed that on June 10,
2014, the Town Council voted 3-1 to rename Kit Carson Park and cemetery as Red Willow Park after community
members spoke about Kit Carson's violent campaigns against Navajo and Apache people. Following strong public
outcry about the lack of public input, the Council reopened the discussion, and subsequent meetings in June and
July 2014 featured passionate testimony both for and against the change.At the July 8, 2014 meeting, Taos
Pueblo, through Tribal Secretary Ian Chisholm on behalf of Tribal Governor Clyde Romero, unanimously opposed
use of the name "Red Willow" because of its cultural significance, while expressing a desire for a neutral, inclusive
name and continued friendship with the Town. The then Town Manager Richard Bellis recommended separating the
cemetery and renaming it Kit Carson Memorial Park Cemetery, and a motion passed 3-1 to rescind the Red Willow
name, separate the cemetery, and form a committee to identify an inclusive new name. Oswald noted that the
matter then lay dormant until November 26, 2024, when she presented this history to the current Council and
asked that the renaming process be completed, leading to Mayor Pascual Maestas directing staff to draft a
resolution establishing the current committee.
Councilmember Oswald reported that on December 10, 2024, the Council unanimously approved Resolution 24-
51, formally establishing the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee, and that on March 11, 2025, the resolution was
amended to clarify that the committee would have five voting members and one non-voting chair, with one seat
specifically appointed by Taos Pueblo. She observed that the effort to reconsider the park's name stretched back
even further, to a 1973 proposal by David Fernandez, Philip Vargas, Lieutenant Governor Roberto Mondragon and
others to rename the park in honor of those who served in the military, particularly Taos Pueblo soldier Jimmy
Santiago Lujan, who died as a prisoner of war during World War II. In the most recent round of public input, the
committee again received suggestions honoring fallen soldiers, such as Tony Reyna Park, but early in the process
Taos Pueblo representatives explained that they and other Native nations do not name places after individuals; the
committee chose to honor that principle and did not advance personal names. Throughout the committee's citizen
forums and meetings, participants proposed a range of options; Tiwa terminology, neutral names like "Taos Town
Park" or"Taos Cottonwoods Park," and veterans-themed names; while also raising concerns about impacts on
existing park partnerships, the condition of park facilities, safety, timing, and cost.After nearly a year of meetings
and opportunities for public comment, the committee closed additional comment for its final meeting, concluding
that the public had ample opportunity to participate.
Councilmember Oswald expressed deep gratitude to the current Council for supporting the initiative, to Tribal
Secretary Jeremy Lujan for his responsiveness and leadership, and to the 2014 governing body for taking the first
step toward change. She thanked Assistant Town Manager Mark Flores, Town Clerk Denise Martinez, Deputy Clerk
Miquela Mangum, Facilities Director Valorie Mondragon for providing meeting space, Former Committee Attorney
Nathan Mulvihill, numerous presenters and panelists, behind-the-scenes staff and volunteers, and the constituent
Robbie Romero, whose initial phone call prompted the renewed effort. She acknowledged a significant misstep in
not centering Taos Pueblo's authority from the beginning, publicly apologized to Tribal Sheriff and Committee
Member Winters and described the process as restorative work that mattered even when the committee did not
"get it right" at first. She emphasized that apologies were acts of integrity and accountability, and that she offered
hers personally and on behalf of the committee.
Councilmember Oswald summarized the committee's principal conclusions. She stated that the Town could lawfully
change the name of the park but could not legally separate the park from the cemetery, and that the committee
recognized its initial failure to center Taos Pueblo in a discussion taking place on unceded Tiwa territory. She
reported that at the committee's final meeting on October 23, 2025, Taos Pueblo's Tribal Secretary Lujan and Tribal
Sheriff Winters presented an official letter from the Taos Pueblo Tribal Council identifying "Red Willow Park" as a
name suitable for unceded Tiwa land and outlining six stipulations needed to align the naming with tribal
sovereignty. The committee received this with humility, deferred to Taos Pueblo's recommendation, and
unanimously supported both the name and the stipulations. Councilmember Oswald stated that the committee's
recommendation to the Town Council was clear: rename the park"Red Willow Park" and embrace the moment as
an opportunity to renew the park's identity and purpose. She further recommended that the Town collaborate with
Taos Pueblo to adopt the stipulations in a Town resolution, institutionalize a shared administrative process for future
place naming (including re-examining other sites, such as Coronado Hall), and treat the renaming not as a single
performative act but as part of an ongoing effort to address and redress historic harms and their lasting
consequences.
Councilmember Oswald outlined the committee's process, explaining that from May to June the group grounded its
work in restorative justice values and developed a framework and tools for decision-making; from July through
August it held broad listening sessions and panel discussions; and in September and October it solicited naming
suggestions from the community through surveys and other outreach. She estimated that approximately 50 people
participated directly through meetings, panels, and citizens'forums, and that the number of participants increased
several-fold when survey responses were included. From this engagement, the committee heard that the park was
a cherished place in the community with strong intergenerational memories but also concerns about safety,
maintenance of walking paths, and the need for better facilities. Participants stressed that renaming alone would
not be enough and that meaningful improvements and ongoing dialogue were necessary. The committee distilled
what it heard into eight key community values associated with the park: intergenerational connection, well-being,
stewardship, belonging, accessibility, cultural respect, play, and celebration. In addition to recommending the Red
Willow name, the committee encouraged the Town to make the park more inviting by improving basic facilities
(especially restrooms), expanding sports opportunities such as the ice-skating rink, enhancing accessibility
(including all-abilities playground concepts), improving safety and natural restoration, incorporating artistic
elements, and adding interpretive signage and wayside exhibits developed in collaboration with Taos Pueblo.
Councilmember Oswald reflected that the committee had approached naming as something larger than a label, but
as a reflection of what the community honors, values, and remembers, and that the process had affirmed a
willingness in Taos to confront its past and shape a more inclusive future. She reiterated that the committee's
mandate was not to re-litigate whether the park should be renamed; that decision had effectively been made more
than a decade prior. Instead, the committee focused on identifying the most aspirational name to recommend to the
Council and demonstrating that the Town organization was capable of finishing work it had begun. She noted that
participating in the process had personally changed her, that the conversations and discomfort were part of
restorative work, and that confronting the past did not erase it but could restore something important for the future.
Tribal Sheriff Winters then addressed the Council on behalf of Taos Pueblo, thanking the Town for the opportunity
for his people to have a seat in the process. He described his role as a bridge between Taos Pueblo and the Town,
acknowledged the difficulty of securing space on the Tribal Council's agenda, and underscored that the letter
presented at the committee's October 23rd meeting reflected the voice of his people, approved and written by the
Tribal Council. He expressed honor in serving as chairperson for his community in this context and encouraged the
Town to move forward with the renaming while maintaining Taos Pueblo's involvement in future steps. Committee
Member Hahn then spoke about the honor of serving alongside Judge Nelson and Dr. Rodriguez and praised
Councilmember Oswald and Dr. Trujillo for doing the "heavy lifting"with empathy and expertise and expressed the
honor of sitting next to Tribal Sheriff Winters during the process. He reflected on the respectful tone of public
comment in the current process, contrasting it with the more contentious atmosphere a decade earlier, and
expressed gratitude for the improved government-to-government relationship between the Town and Taos Pueblo,
noting the many"gifts" hidden in what might appear to be a simple name change.
During questions and comments from the Council, Mayor Pro Tern Fambro asked about the level of community
participation. Councilmember Oswald responded that, across panelists, presenters, citizen forums, and survey
respondents, the committee engaged dozens of residents and believed that anyone who wished to participate had
ample opportunity to do so, given the months of advertised public meetings. Mayor Pro Tem Fambro acknowledged
that, although participation seemed small relative to the broader county population, the Town and committee had
done extensive outreach and that engagement ultimately depended on those who chose to show up.
Councilmember Ortega commented that the community faced many important issues and that the renaming effort
did not preclude work on other priorities, cautioning against treating such matters as an either-or choice. She
reflected on the power of names in personal and family histories and expressed pride in selecting a name that
resonated with neighbors and modeled healthier collaboration for the future. Mayor Pro Tem Fambro and
Councilmembers Fernandez and Ortega collectively thanked Councilmember Oswald, the committee members,
Sheriff Winters, Taos Pueblo leadership, staff, and all participants for their dedication and for helping bring a
decade-old issue to a thoughtful and inclusive point of decision.
B. Discussion, consideration, and possible approval of Resolution 25-67 to officially change the name of
Kit Carson Park to Red Willow Park as recommended by the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee
(Councilmember Genevieve Oswald)
The Council next considered Resolution 25-67, approving the recommendation to rename Kit Carson Park as Red
Willow Park and establishing collaborative interpretation and stewardship practices with Taos Pueblo. Councilor
Oswald read the resolution into the record, noting provisions that recognized the park as unceded Taos Pueblo
territory, committed the Town to adopt a mutually agreed-upon formal land acknowledgment, affirmed Taos Pueblo
as the lead sovereign authority on the renaming process and interpretive content, and committed the Town to
respect Taos Pueblo's ceremonial calendar and access to traditional spaces. The resolution further required that all
interpretive materials and visitor education resources be developed under Taos Pueblo's direction, restricted third
parties from purporting to speak for Taos Pueblo without written consent, directed the Town to issue a public
apology and implement a corrective plan for past"outsider narratives," and committed both governments to an
ongoing government-to-government partnership regarding the park.
Councilmember Ortega asked whether strategies had already been identified for the public apology and corrective
plan and who would be responsible for implementing them. Councilmember Oswald and Town Manager Martinez
clarified that while a public apology had been made verbally, a formal apology would likely be issued through a
Town press release and would require review and input from Taos Pueblo, particularly for items identified in the
resolution. She added that the stipulations in the resolution originated from Taos Pueblo's requests, but
acknowledged that practical details, such as funding, approval of the apology language, and the process for
signage, still required further discussion. It was noted that there were no apparent conflicts with state or federal law,
though policy and implementation questions remained for the Council to consider.
Mayor Pro Tern Fambro raised a series of concerns about the costs and logistics associated with renaming the
park and implementing the stipulations, including expenses for new signage, removal and replacement of existing
signs, changes to digital platforms and the Town's website, and the need for a dedicated budget line. She also
questioned who would serve as primary points of contact on both the Town and Pueblo sides, how ongoing public
consultation and collaboration would be managed, and how ceremonial protocols and the Pueblo's ceremonial
calendar would affect park use. Manager Martinez responded that staff would need to inventory and price the
signage and related changes, and that funding would likely be addressed in the mid-year budget process and by
the next administration. Councilmember Oswald emphasized that the Town would retain legal ownership and
financial responsibility for the park while collaborating with Taos Pueblo on public education and interpretive
elements, describing the resolution as a shared effort rather than an "us versus them" approach.
Town Attorney Jessica Nixon explained that the stipulations in the resolution before the Council had been
requested by Taos Pueblo and incorporated into the park renaming recommendation. She noted that while the
resolution committed the Town to carrying out these actions, several practical questions remained insufficiently
defined, including funding, approval and content of the public apology, and the process for developing and
approving signage. Nixon emphasized that these issues would require further evaluation and collaborative
discussion with Taos Pueblo as the Town determined how best to implement the requested measures.
Councilmember Oswald acknowledged these concerns and stated that, recognizing the shorter terms of Taos
Pueblo's elected leadership, she had already committed to contacting the new tribal secretary after the first of the
year to begin coordinating around the resolution's requirements. She suggested that each government appoint a
staff point person to provide continuity despite political turnover and noted that the remaining practical details were
manageable with additional planning. Mayor Pro Tern Fambro expressed reservations about moving forward
without clearer answers, pointing out that the resolution bound the Town to significant commitments, including a
formal land acknowledgment and potential changes to how and when it was used in meetings, on park materials,
and in Town documents. In response, Councilmember Oswald clarified that land acknowledgment language had
been intentionally left off the current agenda item because Taos Pueblo had not yet approved a formal version for
the committee's use. She added that the existing land acknowledgment, if the park name remained unchanged,
risked being merely symbolic, and that a new draft should include a call to action and explicitly recognize that the
Town occupied unceded Tiwa territory.
Mayor Pro Tem Fambro further asked how third-party uses of the park, such as the concert series, might be
affected by the resolution. Councilor Oswald explained that the related stipulations reflected concerns raised in
committee meetings that narratives about Kit Carson Park had often centered the Dine people, a nation distinct
from Taos Pueblo, rather than the Tiwa people whose homelands the park occupied. She stated that the intent was
to recognize Taos Pueblo's history as paramount within unceded Tiwa territory and to treat"outsider narratives" as
secondary. In response to follow-up questions about whether this applied to public apologies or past Town-
sponsored events, Councilmember Oswald indicated that the language was aimed both at the park's name and at
existing signage and interpretive materials, which currently reflected an outsider narrative focused on Kit Carson
rather than the longer history of the place, while remaining specific to the subject matter under discussion.
Councilmember Fernandez thanked Councilmember Oswald, the renaming committee, and community members
for their work and input, then directed a question to Tribal Sheriff Winters regarding the October 23 letter from Taos
Pueblo, which stated that the Pueblo would have authority over all uses of the park as a condition of the renaming.
He noted that this language did not appear in the resolution and asked whether the version before the Town
Council was acceptable. Tribal Sheriff Winters responded that he would need to consult Tribal Council and the
Tribal Secretary to answer fully but explained that Taos Pueblo's intention was to ensure involvement and final
approval over interpretive and educational materials and signage so Taos Pueblo would not be misrepresented and
the relationship with the Town would remain strong. He emphasized that his role was as a bridge between the Town
and Taos Pueblo, not as a sole spokesperson for his people.
Town Clerk Martinez then clarified that Taos Pueblo's legal team had been consulted and had worked directly with
the Town's attorney, the Tribal Secretary's office, and the Town's executive office to ensure that the resolution
accurately reflected the points in the Pueblo's letter. She stated that both legal teams had reviewed the document
for completeness and consistency. Tribal Sheriff Winters confirmed that tribal leadership, including Tribal Council,
had been involved throughout the process and had reviewed the documents presented. Town Manager added that
revisions had continued through the weekend and into the morning of the meeting, so the final version was new to
both the executive office and the Council. In response to questions about whether Tribal Council had formally
approved the latest version, Councilmember Oswald reported that Tribal Secretary Winters had presented the
resolution to Tribal Council on Thursday and that it had been approved. Town Attorney Nixon asked for clarification
on the changes to the resolution since its presentation to Tribal Council. Town Clerk Martinez referenced a follow-
up letter from Taos Pueblo legal counsel dated November 15 confirming final approval. Councilmember Oswald
confirmed that some wording changes had been made after the Tribal Council meeting, but described them as
minor, and Town Attorney Nixon confirmed that she had both the final resolution and the Tribal Secretary's
correspondence.
Mayor Pro Tern Fambro then sought legal assurance that adopting the resolution in partnership with a sovereign
nation would not violate any state or federal regulations. Town Attorney Nixon stated that, based on her review and
the limited time available, she did not believe the resolution conflicted with state or federal law, though she
acknowledged that questions remained for both the Town and Taos Pueblo regarding long-term implementation and
that it was within the Council's discretion to table or proceed. Mayor Pro Tern Fambro also expressed concern
about committing to the resolution without a clearer understanding of financial and staffing impacts, noting that the
item had been uploaded to BoardDocs that same morning. In response, the Town Manager explained that the Town
would first need to estimate the cost of replacing park signage and updating media and social networking materials,
relying on the Parks Department to inventory signs and obtain quotes, and that funding would likely be addressed
in the mid-year budget process and fall to the next administration to implement.
Councilmember Ortega thanked Mayor Pro Tern Fambro for her detailed questions, emphasizing that they reflected
diligence and concern for process rather than opposition to the renaming. Mayor Pro Tern Fambro reiterated that,
with only a short time left in her term, she wanted clarity on financial and staffing commitments, the timeline for
implementation, and how the Town and Taos Pueblo would collaborate as separate governments to carry out the
resolution's terms. She questioned whether the Town might be starting something it could not fully fulfill, given the
costs of revitalizing the park and the Town's sole financial responsibility, and suggested that tabling the resolution to
gather more specific cost estimates and clearer direction from Taos Pueblo might be prudent. Councilmember
Oswald responded that the October 23 letter from Taos Pueblo was an extraordinary document reflecting centuries
of concessions by the Pueblo so that others could share the space, and she framed the list of stipulations as a
modest set of steps the Town should have undertaken long ago. She stressed that none of the items were
impossible, only that they required collaboration rather than an "us versus them" mentality, and then moved to
approve Resolution 25-67, with a second from Councilmember Ortega Councilmember Fernandez asked whether it
would be more appropriate to return the current version to Taos Pueblo for further review, Tribal Sheriff Winters
affirmed that, consistent with Pueblo practice, consultation and approval through the Tribal Secretary and Taos
Pueblo legal counsel constituted formal approval and that this process had been followed.
Mayor Pro Tern Fambro stated that she voted no on the resolution, explaining that her opposition was based not on
the substance of the proposal but on the limited time the Council had to review it, particularly with respect to
financial and staffing impacts. She reiterated that she would have preferred to table the item to allow additional
analysis before making a final decision.
Following the vote, Councilmember Oswald thanked the Council and commented that, aside from legal fees, the
only direct expense incurred during the committee's work was $20 of her personal funds for survey materials,
emphasizing that the process had otherwise been carried out by volunteers. She expressed appreciation to all who
had contributed their time, expertise, and good faith to the effort.
A motion was made by Councilmember Oswald to approve Resolution 25-67 to officially change the name
of Kit Carson Park to Red Willow Park, as recommended by the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee, and
seconded by Councilmember Ortega. The motion passed. The Councilmembers voted as follows: Ayes:
Oswald, Ortega, and Fernandez; No: Fambro.
3.Adjourn
A motion was made by Councilmember Ortega to adjourn the meeting. The motion was carried
unanimously, and the meeting adjourned at 4:21 p.m.
APP OVED:
Pascualito Maestas, Mayor
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Monday, November 17, 2025
Town Council Special Meeting
3:00 p.m.
Hybrid Meeting (Option to attend in-person or virtually.)
The Town of Taos will hold its hybrid Town Council Regular Meeting at the Town Council Chambers, 120
Civic Plaza Drive. Members of the public can livestream the meeting or view it in archived format on the
Town's website taosnm.gov. - https://www.taosnm.gov/259/Public-Meetings---Live-Archive. Those
wishing to submit comments may contact Town Clerk Denise Martinez at (575)751-2005 or email
dmmartinez@taosnm.gov.
Those wishing to participate virtually, please use the meeting attendee link: https://taosnm.gov/tcm
1. Opening Items
A. Call to Order by the Honorable Mayor Pascualito M. Maestas.
B. Roll Call
C. Pledge of Allegiance
2. Matters and Reports from the Council
A. Presentation by the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee regarding recommendations for the renaming of Kit Carson
Memorial Park. (Councilmember Genevieve Oswald)
B. Discussion, consideration, and possible approval of Resolution 25-67 to officially change the name of Kit Carson Park to Red
Willow Park as recommended by the Kit Carson Park Renaming Committee (Councilmember Genevieve Oswald)
3. Adjourn